Are there ISO AW 220 oils that are NOT machine oil?
Yes. Specific hydraulic oils, turbine oils, etc.
I guess that's where I get lost. I see a whole lot of numbers and letters and that's about it. Is there a secret decoder ring that tells me this is a machine oil vs hydraulic oil vs turbine oil…etc.?
(and please pardon the complete thread hijack but I thought this might be relevant discussion for more than just me)
I think I'm making it way more complicated than it needs to be while trying to remain brand-neutral so I'll try another approach:
Select any brand of ISO AW 220 hydraulic oil (I know) that has an AGMA rating (Bingo!). That will do it. You will get the correct additives with the correct base stock. All you have to do is call your local petroleum distributor. You won't find this on the shelf in any auto parts stores, but they should be able to order it for you.
You can make a career out of lubrication engineering, many people do.
(I wouldn't worry about hijacking too much unless someone complains. :))
Well the guys at Keno tractor had the pump in stock and at a very affordable price. So i ordered it and a new filter. Im going to change the oil make sure all lines and screens (if there are any) are clean and clear, fill it up properly and install new pump. Ill keep you posted. Btw i work on trucks for a small oil company and im sure they can get me the right stuff so ill give them those #s and see what they come up with.
Thanks Bob. I suspected you were trying to be brand neutral. I've learned a ton. I know it seems obvious to you but I never even considered the possibility that there are petroleum distributors that have retail stores. Turns out there is one not far from me. Go figure. Now I gotta go google "AGMA rating" and figure out what that is about.
@Plan B: sorry for the hijack. Glad to see you're getting it solved. Keep us posted.
Glad Keno came through for you. If I recall correctly there should be about three gallons of oil in/for the clutch housing and about five gallons in/for the reservoir.
@Grizz:
Some more light reading, including the advantages of synthetic oils.
Glad you liked it. A little education can save a lot of time time & money, which is another reason why I'm such a big fan of using oil analysis as a diagnostic tool.
A good friends dad ran the mechanic shop for Biggie Drayage out of Oakland and swore by using oil analysis monthly on every piece of equipment.
On a side note when the pipes going through the Tehachapi mountains bringing water to southern California were being installed the tunnels were bored too small. Bill Kirkwood (the dad) engineered a piece of equipment that would raise it's front or rear legs, crawl inside the pipes and run them into the holes and butt them together, saving a ton of money that would have been spent enlarging the holes. I spent countless nights over whiskey and water soaking up knowledge from this man.
Well i appreciate the advise and help Bob I got her moving again and the people at Keno said it would be fine to use tractor fluid so i did. I wanted to move a little dirt today with it but i have a hard time steering cause im recovering from a broken leg and its hard to push the right brake!! So im gonna take it back to the owner and get paid…total bill with parts,labor and delivery is $756.00 not too bad huh!
"the people at Keno said it would be fine to use tractor fluid so i did."
Great, no longer my responsibility, but the liability ball with your customer is in your court now. Not sure where Eric gets his info but it's not based on empirical scientific knowledge, otherwise we would be on the same page.
Sorry to hear about your leg, hope it heals well and soon. :)
Well im pretty sure thats what was in it to begin with cause the color and wt of the oil looked the same. But hey, i have no problem doing the job again for free if it comes back for reason of using the wrong lubricant…I wouldn't blame keno or you if I did anything wrong!! I reckon honesty and taking responsibility for my own actions is what's keeping me in business. So its cool!!
Thanks for the get well soon, God knows i need it…LOL!
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