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April 21, 2011


PrairieDog

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posts 15

An electrical problem… my weakest point.  (Although my wife suggests there are several.)  2007 JM 284.

Immediately after engine startup the ammeter will swing +/-  10 or 15 amps, at about once per second.  The aftermarket voltmeter also swings about +/- 1 or 2 volts, same frequency.  If I put a load on it (headlights) things steady out.  And after some time, like 10-15 minutes, things seem to settle down.  That would propbably correspond to the battery having been fully recharged.

I have looked for loose connections but found none.  So, I'm almost at the point of starting down the expensive road…. changing parts.  Alternator, regulator, keyswitch…where to look?  Any suggestions re testing I should do?  

Thanks,

Mike

April 21, 2011


Bob Rooks

Lifetime Member Platinum Elite

posts 868

The symptoms you describe have EPA written all over them, could be one of two things: 1) You have an air heater in your intake manifold (cycles on and off) and it keeps intake air warm until the engine warms up (Ford 7.3 diesels used this too). 2) If you are equipped with an EGR valve on your exhaust manifold, that serves the same purpose and acts the same way but is actuated by a solenoid.

April 22, 2011


PrairieDog

Lifetime Member

posts 15

Thanks for the reply, Bob, but I have neither.  I failed to mention that this problem only started about 2 months ago; about 550 hours on the tractor. 

Mike

April 22, 2011


Carl Darnell

Lifetime Member

posts 68

It could be the regulator causing the fluctuations. I wouldn't worry to much about it until it fails to charge. 

It could also be the alternator but as long as it is charging leave it alone.

 

April 22, 2011


Tinbender

Lifetime Member Elite

posts 385

I'm thinking perhaps a bad diode in the alternators rectifier circuit .readin

Do a google search for "Alternator rectifier testing"

April 22, 2011


Tinbender

Lifetime Member Elite

posts 385

Maybe it's just a loose belt?

April 22, 2011


Bob Rooks

Lifetime Member Platinum Elite

posts 868

I've seen voltage regulators pulse like that before, but never back into discharge. Something is going to ground. Loose belt won't cause discharge unless there already is an electrical load it's trying to overcome. Bear in mind that you have only a ~14 amp alternator to begin with. If you checked all of the wiring connections and found them sound, then my bet would be on the voltage regulator.

holeagain

April 22, 2011


Affordable

Supporting Dealer

posts 195

I have seen alot of voltage regulators on the Jinmas cause this same problem,not seeing your tractor to confirm it,but I think thats going to be your problem too

 

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April 23, 2011


PrairieDog

Lifetime Member

posts 15

Thanks for the replies, folks.  I'll focus on the regulator and report when I find what it is.

Mike

April 25, 2011


rschnier

Lifetime Member

posts 3

I had a somewhat-similar issue on my Jinma 454.  After replacing the voltage regulator and seeing no difference, the problem turned out to be that the regulator was being loosened in its socket by engine vibrations (especially at low RPM).  I cured the problem by putting a zip-tie around the regulator and its socket to firmly hold it in place.

 

Cheap and easy fix; just in case this turns out to be the issue.

 

- Randy


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