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    • #49604
      Piper184
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        Hi David,

        I don’t have any information about the new style pump but on my 284 the fuel leak was from the lift pump. I replaced it with an electric pump and just made a plate and gasket to cover the hole.

        I put a clear tube on the overflow elbow and stuck a bold in the end to plug the tube. That way I can see if there is any overflow. Usually a teaspoon full in about 50 hours. I think it might be fuel from the IP but I change oil every 100 hours with the engine so it doesn’t matter unless it gets worse.

      • #49605
        DavidPrivett
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          did you pull the manual lift pump apart to see what failed? diaphragm? we know how bad the Chinese rubber products are.

        • #49606
          Piper184
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            There is a little o-ring on the plunger between the crankshaft side and the fuel side. I couldn’t keep one working in there. An absolutely wrong seal type for that application.

            I had an old solenoid type impulse fuel pump on the shelf so I made a bracket and mounted that. Since I had done the Ranch Hand upgrade to the fuel bowl connecting the supply side was easy. I discovered that if you cut the ferrule off of the banjo fittings they just slide right out and 1/4″ ID fuel hose would slide on. I made a new hose to go from the new pump to the fuel filter using one of the banjo ends and hose clamps. Wired the fuel pump to the hot side of the key switch and it will move fuel up into the filter until the internal pressure limit is hit then turn off. It rarely makes more than one stroke when operating properly. No need for a hand primer pump.

            The lift pump is held to the IP with two bolts. I had some pieces of aluminum about 1/8″ thick laying around so I traced the shape of the pump housing and made a plate. Cut out a gasket and covered it all up. Hasn’t been off since.

            I can post pictures if you like.

          • #49607
            DavidPrivett
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              no, that is ok I think I got a plan now. But in case things go sideways do you know what the injector pump # is on your 284 engine.

            • #49608
              Piper184
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                Here is my IP data plate.

                Apologies: I previously said the lift pump had two bolts. It actually had 3 studs.

                Hope this helps

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              • #49610
                DavidPrivett
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                  great thanks the 31329 is a number that I was thinking it might be,  I should have gotten a engine parts breakdown when I bought the tractor but did not it just came with the tractor itself.

                • #49611
                  Piper184
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                    I have the engine parts book if you ever need anything, I can scan it and send it to you. The drawings are pretty clear.

                    There is no breakdown of the pump or even the hand pump. The book shows the same part number though.

                    3I329 (not a 1).

                    If I remember right, Bob R said it was a copy of a Bosch pump.

                    I suspect there will always be a little leak-by of diesel from the IP down into the crank sump. The Bosch’s may not leak but the copies are certain to as they are not made to the same tolerances. At least that is my experience with the hydraulic side of these tractors.

                  • #49612
                    Piper184
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                      My engine is the Y385T and that is what the book is for, but in some places it shows Y380. Not sure what the differences are.

                    • #49613
                      DavidPrivett
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                        I can not remember what the tags are but there was a difference between the tag on the valve cover and what was casted into the block of the engine on mine. The numbers were the same but the letters were different. If they ever made a collectable anything how would someone ever say it has all matching numbers, hahahahha

                      • #49692
                        RayH
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                          Why change???The DSL in the injector pump can be drained and changed…If it is in your crankcase it will cause crankshaft problems…This is the best system…leave it alone.
                          The Y380 engine is completely different to the 385.
                          Y380 is much better engine…direct injection, makes it a much better starting engine.

                        • #49693
                          DavidPrivett
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                            yeah I have left it alone I took the mower off the tractor (bought new zero turn) and put a tiller on it so it does not get the use that it was getting.

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