Disc brakes on Jinma 284

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    • #47175
      DavidPrivett
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        I am assuming that your tractor has dry brakes , if so take off the covers ,I think you will see two small shoes. They pivot one end and there is a cam on the other end that pushes the shoes onto the drum . I have a dong feng le 204a so I may be incorrect on what I am telling you. But mine the shaft that has the cam was dry and rusted as it went thru the housing so the brakes on that side did not work properly . took that shaft out used some emery paper on it lubed it lightly reassembled and it is good to go. Hopefully yours is similar.

      • #47179
        Piper184
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          According to my manual there were drum brakes like you describe but the ones on my tractor are disc brakes. A different configuration. I have never seen anything quite like this before and have only the images in the manual to go by. I won’t know for sure about the expander ball part of it until I get it apart. Drum brakes I understand, disc brakes on vehicles I understand, these, not so much….

        • #47180
          ronjin
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            Piper, have a picture of the 284 brakes, but can’t figure out how to post it for you.

             

            ronjin

          • #47181
            Piper184
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              without knowing how you are posting replies, I can’t give you detailed instructions.

              However, if you are using a PC and logging on to the web site, then you will be typing a reply in a box near the bottom of the page that this thread is on.  Below the box will be the emoji’s, a box to check if you want to be Notified of replies via email and a warning about Maximum file size allowed is 1000 KB.

              Below that is

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              You click on the browse button then you navigate the files of your computer to find the picture you want to attach and click on that. It will take a minute or two to upload, then your picture will appear on the forum with your message once you click the Submit button.

              You have to be sure that your photo is less than 1 MB in size. There are many ways to reduce the size of a photo depending on what operating system you have and what software you may have on your PC.

              Hope this helps.

            • #47182
              ronjin
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                Here is picture of 284 brake shoes:

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              • #47184
                Piper184
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                  Ah Ha!

                  This is pretty much what I had pictured in my mind based on the parts book drawings. This helps clear it up.

                  Based on the feel at the pedals I suspect there is rust/corrosion in the area where the balls contact the plates. Possibly a broken spring or two.

                  I am guessing there is no lube on any of the pivot points or the balls/ramps. I am guessing that some kind of lube would be a good idea for sliding metal parts.

                  What do you think would be best, a light coat of wheel bearing grease or a white grease like lubriplate?

                  Did you have to take the whole housing off to get these out or will they come out the end plate?

                  Thanks!

                • #47185
                  ronjin
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                    Piper,

                    If you want to send me a PM with your Email address, I’ll send you a PDF file containing pictures and notes of the disassembly.

                    ronjin

                  • #47186
                    Piper184
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                      I don’t see any options for PM on this site.

                      stuart [at] harnerfarm [dot] net

                    • #47187
                      DavidPrivett
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                        glad you were able to post the pictures of those brakes, never seen that before, interesting . When you decide to lube things up use hi – temp. lube.

                      • #47188
                        ronjin
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                          Piper,

                          It has been sent.  Let me know if you do not get it and I will try again.

                          ronjin

                        • #47195
                          kenotractors
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                            Hi, the brake system on a 284 is a dry system-it sounds like the seal inside there might have gone bad allowing fluid into the Brake Housing. The best way to check this-there are bolts on the bottom of the break housing, if you take them out and fluid runs out then you are going to have to replace the ceramic discs and the inner seal.

                             

                            Tyler Nystrom
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                          • #47196
                            Piper184
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                              Nope, already checked that. No fluid came out.

                              The feel on the pedal is more like the pressure plates are not rotating smoothly. I suspect rust or other corrosion on the plates or balls. Another possibility is a broken pressure plate spring.

                              I won’t know until I get it apart.

                               

                            • #49393
                              GD
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                                Piper, If you want to send me a PM with your Email address, I’ll send you a PDF file containing pictures and notes of the disassembly.</p>

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                                Good day

                                 

                                I am just about to work on my brakes. Could i ask you send me a copy of your information regarding the brakes please.

                                 

                                Jeff

                                05 Jinma 284 Y385
                                ZL-20 FEL w/Brand Lv22 cntrl valve.
                                LED Lights and a Light Bar.

                              • #49395
                                Piper184
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                                  Hi Jeff,

                                  This thread is 3 years old, I had to go back and review it to even remember what it was about. If I remember correctly I was able to fix mine by spraying some brake clean and then some lubrication onto the balls that sit between the steel discs. Once they started moving freely all I had to do was adjust free play and all was well.

                                  Do you have disc brakes or drum brakes?

                                  What kind of work are you doing to the brakes?

                                • #49475
                                  GD
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                                    ordered new discs and i did get system working after I removed disc and presssure plates. no broken springs just a lot of rusted seized hinge points.

                                    i am almost at limit for adjusting free play out so hence the reason i ordered new discs.

                                    hopefully you will read this as i took a long time to reply

                                     

                                    cheers

                                    05 Jinma 284 Y385
                                    ZL-20 FEL w/Brand Lv22 cntrl valve.
                                    LED Lights and a Light Bar.

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