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    • #31596
      Bob Rooks
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        That's impossible! Just cannot happen because you disconnected the negative (ground) cable from the battery, which is what you always do when working on electrical systems. You disconnected the ground cable instead of the positive one because you knew that you might accidentally touch the wrench to a steel part and cause a short circuit, possibly blowing up a perfectly good wrench.

        I'm also very glad you had removed your watch and rings, that coming from someone that had to be reminded the hard way. And you never see a mechanic at work with a gold chain around their neck either.

        Sorry, I don't know anything about wheeled tractors…embarassed

         

        There is enough energy in a diesel starting battery to create and sustain an arc flash.

        More about arc flashes here: http://www.google.com/search?q…..1I7GGIC_en

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      • #31597
        msshearin
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          ok Bob I'm an idiot not a mechanic. Just thought someone may know why i lost all electrical by blowing one fuse. Figured there had to be another one somewhere I don't know about.embarassedembarassedembarassedembarassed

        • #31598
          SpringValley
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            What kind of tractor is this…make, model and approximate year?  Does this tractor not have a gauge cluster?  You say you replaced the volt meter so I assume it is a separate gauge from the others.    

          • #31599
            msshearin
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              it is a 2002 farm pro 2420 20hp 290 engine sir. this model does not have a guage cluster 5 seperate round guages.

            • #31601
              Tinbender
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                Until someone with intimate knowledge of that era tractor chimes in all I can suggest is to start checking currant from the battery to the fuse box, check all your fuses, perhaps a wire melted or a loose connection in the fuse box, etc.

                 

                Long, long ago I was removing the battery in my 64 T-Bird. The first mistake was not taking off the silver ring my folks had given me after a trip to Mexico. Second mistake was using channel-lock pliers instead of going and getting the right wrench. Mistake #3, disconnecting the positive cable first.

                 Damn that hurt when the pliers welded themselves to the ring with my finger in the middle of it!yell

                 Hope that makes you feel a little bettercool 

              • #31605
                msshearin
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                  ok Larry I have power to the main fuse…bottom right 30 amp fuse, (which is also the one the blew)

                   and fires the voltmeter which is the only thing that is working right now!

                  ?hailking so far so good….next?

                • #31606
                  SpringValley
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                    If you have the tail style fuse box with the blade style fuses the top fuse is the main one.   It should be a 30 amp fuse.  But I am not sure on your tractor.  Also I assume there is a wire on two terminals on your volt meter.  If so things might be fed through it.  Where does the wire go once it leaves the voltmeter?   You will have to trace with a test light to see where you are losing it. 

                  • #31609
                    msshearin
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                      square old stile fuse box sir…+ on one side of voltmeter – on other

                    • #31616
                      msshearin
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                        no power to key switch Larry but going to trace the yellow wire now thanks I'll let u knowhailking

                      • #31621
                        msshearin
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                          Ok Larry you ain't gonna believe this!!!!!It was the voltmeter…in side hot out side not…put old one back on….problem solved…whoed of thought it….thanks for the help dude!!!!hailkinghailkinghailkinghailking

                        • #31623
                          Bob Rooks
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                            Huh? A voltmeter doesn't have an “IN” and “OUT” like an ammeter does. These ammeters are internally shunted so full current passes through the meter. Now I'm really confusedreadinwink

                            Who cares though as long as it works, right? holeagain

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                          • #31624
                            Tinbender
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                              I think what he means is after shorting out the new gauge with a wrench, which caused power going in but nothing going out, he replaced it with his old gauge and is now back in business.hmmm

                            • #31626
                              Bob Rooks
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                                OK, that make sense – he blew the shunt.

                                But he still wants to call it a voltmeter, oh never mind…roflmaoroflmaoroflmao

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                              • #31630
                                Tinbender
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                                  My first experience with this was a 1937 Chevy truck I had just bought and towed to the house. After lubing the valves and beating them with a brass drift to get them unstucklaugh and got it running I found nothing else had electrical power. A friend pulled the amp gauge and on the back was a piece of mica board with a wire wrapped around it about ten wraps, and broken. My friend says,” time for a trip to Goodwill” and we go get a waffle iron.hmmm He pulls out one of the heating coils and wraps the same amount of winding onto the back of the gauge and viola, we have juicecool. That was the only “fuse” that truck came with from the factory.

                                • #31631
                                  SpringValley
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                                    msshearin, I think you did a fry job when you had the sparks flying.  Glad you got it going.  Lesson learned I would think hmmm

                                  • #31637
                                    msshearin
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                                      yes sirembarassed

                                    • #31638
                                      Tinbender
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                                        Glad you got it figured out quickly and rather cheaply, I love happy endingscool

                                      • #31644
                                        Bob Rooks
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                                          Tin wrote:

                                          “A friend pulled the amp gauge and on the back was a piece of mica board with a wire wrapped around it about ten wraps, and broken.”

                                          That was your shunt. roflmao

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                                        • #31649
                                          msshearin
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                                            Me too Bender…the whole story is not that puzzling….ordered an ampmeter from ebay, came in,opened the box put on tractor without really looking at box. Sparks flew when wrench hit something,blew fuse.fuse replaced. No electrics,assumed really f'ed up something when grounded wrench. Wasted several days troubleshooting. Checking wires etc,etc. Read Larrys last post about fire in and out of ampmeter hmmm. Go check it fire in. none out.Look closely.Dam its a voltmeter not an ampmeter.Look at box says ampmeter(thanks ebay)frown.Put old nonworking ampmeter on andlaugh problem solved.Just ordered a jinma AMPMETER from circle G.Guess several lessons learned #1 GO OEM…not ebay…..thanks for all the support. #2 remove negetive battery cable….!hailkinghailkinglaugh

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