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Ok the entirity of the site is now downloaded.
(actually not, just the dozer and some other sections..)
As a respectful request, i would like to know if “site management” has any concerns about me “co hosting” the site elsewhere?
I of course, would respect any decision in regard to this matter which is presented to me respectfully.
thank you.
Sincerely,
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CTOA - Founder
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Mr Hal?
It appears that the following has been added to the “Old Forums”,
Note: Be sure to only use the SEARCH box below
if your looking for info in our older forums.
and that the complete urls are no longer available.
(like
http://www.ctoa.net/modules/ne…..8;forum=21
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Is there any objection to this content?
thank you.
David
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David,
I simply moved the old forums into a IFRAME to make it flow nicer. Your post seem to always point that I am doing something wrong. I am the GOOD GUY please stick to the purpose of the site and helping others with tractor questions. It is that simple.
Thank you.
Please review our site policy http://www.ctoa.net/history-of…..f-conduct/
CTOA - Founder
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I think you're missing something here. Leon. I've watched the interchanges between David and Hal since the site was changed and I have to say that I respect Hal's position. He determined that changes were necessary to keep CTOA functioning well and he has undertaken to effect those changes. That is his prerogative as the site owner and webmaster. During the course of the changes Hal has solicited, and listened to, comments from the users. There are those who don't like the new format and those who do. Form the most part, those who dislike the new format have been civil in the expressions of their discontent. The only real exception I've noticed has been David.
David's comment's, while purported to be helpful, have been couched in language that comes across to me, (and evidently to Hal as well) as snide, condescending and demeaning. Please note that I'm NOT saying that that is David's intent – only David knows what his intent is. I'm just saying that the way I read it, the language he has used comes across that way. Unfortunately, an internet forum is a rather two-dimensional medium. We don't get to see facial expressions (emoticons don't count) or body language and we can' t hear the tone of voice. It is, therefore, all too easy to misinterpret what someone has said. What is intended as a wry comment meant to amuse may very well be interpreted as a snotty jibe intended to cause offense.
There are so many possible pitfalls in this medium that it is surprising it works as well as it does. Posting in all caps, as you just did,is generally accepted to be the keyboard equivalent of shouting aggressively. Is that what you intended? Perhaps, or perhaps not. I'd have to go back and look at your past postings to make that determination and then I might still be wrong. Could be the caps lock key got hit and you just decided to leave it that way.
Most of us on this forum are, I would venture to guess, middle-aged or beyond. With age comes increasing resistance to change – that's normal. The internet, though, is young and constantly changing. Websites have to adapt to those changes or they collapse. Hal is trying to stay ahead of that problem. I think we need to bear with him on this and take some time to get accustomed to the new format. Whinging about it won't help and criticizing him certainly won' t make his job any easier. Giving respectful input, requests, suggestions, or *constructive* criticism is valuable – criticizing Hal as a person or calling him incompetent is a distraction and a waste of his time, particularly when he is doing this a non-profit service to all of us.
That's my take on it; your mileage may, as they say, vary considerably.
Rich Waugh
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X3 . All I know is the site seems to be improving everyday so Kudo,s to Hal for making it the best he can & all of you that post the helpfull replys . Personally I would have been up a creek without a paddle if it wasn't for the great help & info I received on the old forum . Thanks to all .
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Rich & Tinbender wrote:
” Davids comments, while purported to be helpful, have been couched in language that comes across to me, (and evidently to Hal as well), as snide, condescending and demeaning”
That's my take. I would add egotistical and just flat out rude. My 2 cents.
Totally agree plus his posts took a lot of real estate, albeit was his “style”.
The new site is looking better every day. My hat's off to Hal
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Okay..well if yall find me one, I will updated it to the smiley list 
No problem, I thought that would cover the KISS BUTT request!!- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.