undercarrage bushings fell out

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    • #37367
      Bob Rooks
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        Okay, that's the front trunnion bushing on the equalizer bar (regardless what the Chinese call it). Don't know how much you operated the dozer without this bushing, but the longer you did the harder it will be to repair. There should be a grease fitting in both trunnions. From the pictures it looks like they've never seen grease.

        Is it still under warranty from Northern Tool?

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      • #37370
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          Thanks Bob.  This will be my first test of Northern Tool's customer service.  Its 6 months old with a 2 year warranty.   The manually calls this the “swinging arm”   Its been about 2 months but I think I drove it right into the barn after I found the 1 bushing on the ground.  There is no telling how long the other one has been missing.  probably the full 6-7 hours that is on the dozer.  I gotta say of the two Jinma tractors I own.  This is by far is the most fun to play with.  How do you think the bushings should stay in there., compression?   the diagram has no other holding mechanism.  If compression is the answer, that doesn't appear to be a good solution.

        • #37371
          DavidPrivett
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            I would see if they will send you new blocks with bushings installed, then figure out how you want to secure the bushings in the old blocks and keep them as spares.

          • #37373
            Bob Rooks
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              The bushings are pressed in the trunnion mounts, similar to camshaft bearings in an engine block. There should be a hole in the bushing that lines up with the grease fitting. Once the bushings are pressed in they will not come out, at least they aren't supposed to. There are several good reasons I can think of as to why the bushings came out, but that's not going to get you up and running again. First, measure the trunnion pins to see if they have been hammered out of round and/or if the surface area is damaged (Those are the round “thinghies” that are a part of the equalizing bar that fit into the trunnions).If they are in bad shape they will have to be sleeved or worst case – replaced.

              FYI: In American “dozer slang”, the track frames are called swing frames, and the Chinese swinging arm is called an equalizer bar. Whatever…. roflmao

              I agree with David. Have Northern send you two new trunnion assemblies. Assembly means all parts included and assembled. And make sure they are drilled for grease fittings.

              Do you have a parts manual?

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            • #37379
              35xtd
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                I have same dozer mine dont have grease fittings on either end..the manual said there suppose to be but mines not even drilled for it

                35xtd Dozer and hoe..1610d yanmar tractor

              • #37380
                Bob Rooks
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                  It would be in your best interests (and the dozer's) to install grease fittings.

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                • #37410
                  35xtd
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                    when weather clears up im gonna drillem out…wonder y factory didnt do it

                    35xtd Dozer and hoe..1610d yanmar tractor

                  • #37411
                    Bob Rooks
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                      Not enough incentive I suspect. 😉

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                    • #37413
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                        Thanks All.   Here is an update.  Northern Tool found a local place a few miles from me in central Arizona.  They shipped new Trunnions and bushings.  to make these stay this time there are four welds on the trunnions on each one to make sure they don't fall out this time.   I was convinced that the grease fittings were not necessary because the bushings are supposed to be “oil infused bronze”  I was skeptical at first but then I googled it and found that these do exist.  I think I am all set now. 

                      • #37426
                        Bob Rooks
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                          Oilite bronze bushings and bearings have been around forever. Mine are plain bronze however, and pressed in. No tack welds. Which raises a question; How did they tack weld bronze to cast iron?

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                        • #37635
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                            To add closure to this topic.  Here is a picture of the welds now holding the bushings in place.  Thanks all

                          • #37636
                            Bob Rooks
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                              That should hold.

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                            • #37684
                              Tontosgold
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                                When I lost my trunion bush a couple years ago I simply drilled a hole through the housing and tapped it out for a grub screw. Machined up a spare bush bush while I was at it. Welding a bush into a housing should be the absolute last resort. Don't know why anyone would do it unless they were stuck in a remote region with limited tooling and time was of the essence. Rough and unprofessional also creates a headache for the next guy who needs to change out the bush. 

                                Dozer YCT306S shuttle shift - root rake, tree-pusher, backhoe
                                Excavator Hyundai 17 ton

                                QLD, Australia

                              • #37685
                                Bob Rooks
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                                  It was a cheap and dirty fix, for sure. You did it right Tonto. hailking

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