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  • in reply to: Jinma 284 Y385 gauge & filter conversions #48190
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      Here is a “schematic” that I have on file. Not very good but might help.

      in reply to: Jinma 284 Y385 gauge & filter conversions #48152
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        Do you know what year it is? There should be an ID plate on the rear fender with serial number and production date.

        Mine was made in October of 2006. I may have some of the filter information you need if yours is close to the same age.

        That being said, who knows if there were changes in the middle of a particular year?

        I haven’t looked at the threads of the sending units for temp and pressure. Probably the only way to know for sure is to take them off and measure. On mine at least the coolant drain valve on the left side of the engine block turned out to actually be standard NPT. Shocked the heck out of me but made replacing the valve a piece of cake!

        Since all of your instruments are dead, I would first check fuses, then follow wires. Other possibilities include bad ground and bad key switch. The key switch is a known weak point on these tractors. There is a Ford part number that serves as a replacement for a lot of them.

        Do the instrument cluster lights come on? If they don’t it may not mean anything but if they do it would be good news for the ground connection of the instrument cluster.

        Oil pressure, amp meter and water temp should be easy if you can get the correct sending units. Tachometer, hour meter and fuel level will be harder to accomplish. On mine the tach is electronic and feeds off of a hall effect type pickup on the flywheel. Finding something that can properly count the pulses might be difficult.

        in reply to: Jinma 254 Battery #48146
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          Any auto parts store such as NAPA or Pep Boys will have one. Same for farm stores like TSC, Runnings, etc. Big box stores too like WalMart, Lowes or Menard’s.

          I bought mine at either WalMart or Menard’s. Whoever had the best price at the time.

          Even the nearest Caterpillar dealer will have one. It will cost more, but will be a superior battery.

          Just take the old battery in with you so you can compare sizes and terminal locations. You will need it to save the core charge anyway. Don’t bother telling them what it is for, they won’t be able to look it up that way.

          in reply to: Jinma 254 Battery #48143
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            My 2006 model 284 takes a Group 24F. Yours is probably the same.

            The Chinese original in my tractor went 11 years! If you live in cold weather the more CCA the better.

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              Pete,

              I’m not sure what size/style your tractor has because Jinma seems to like to change things up without warning.

              My 2006 284 front end loader uses European DIN fittings in some places and metric o-ring face fittings in other places.

              The dealer I bought the tractor from doesn’t have a clue about hydraulic hoses and fittings so I had to go searching on my own. Caterpillar dealers can get some of the DIN fittings and custom make hoses with different ends. When I worked there, they had nothing in the metric o-ring fittings. However, you can find some adapters to go to JIC fittings. This is expensive, but at least you can get hoses with JIC ends made just about anywhere.

              Here is a hydraulic fitting guide from http://www.discounthydraulics.com

               

              If you can post pictures of your fittings and maybe measure them using this guide maybe we can figure out what you have and what you need.

               

               

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              in reply to: No Lift on 3 Point if Any Weight Present. #47909
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                That could be several things. Let’s eliminate some of the simple ones first.

                How is the fluid level?

                Do you have a front end loader and if so how does it act?

                If you raise the 3pt. and hang some weight on it. will it stay up for some time, like overnight?

                Have you checked the suction pickup screen in the reservoir?

                When you raise the 3pt without weight, does it raise up really slow or normal speed?

                Assuming you have power steering, what happens when you turn the steering wheel while trying to raise the 3pt.? It should slow or stop the 3pt. and give priority to the steering system. Any stuttering, jerking or odd sounds could indicate a flow/pressure problem which might point at the pump. Too many unanswered questions to make that call yet.

                in reply to: Smartrac 284 fuel problem #47573
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                  Sounds like the lift pump may not be working. Also sounds like the governor is not working. Since these share a common oil sump I would check the oil in the governor. If it has been a while, just go ahead and change it. It only holds a few ounces.  Be sure to save the old oil so you can examine it for fuel contamination.

                  Let us know what you find. This could be interesting…

                  in reply to: No start—-no response from starter or lights #47544
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                    Just went through something similar with my Jinma 284. Turned out that the main contacts inside the solenoid were burned/worn just enough to cause high resistance. This in turn kept the motor from turning.

                    Solution was to remove and dismantle the solenoid. Some soldering required. Once inside I cleaned the contacts on a wire wheel and re-installed. Lubed all the proper places while the starter was apart just for good measure. After 600 hours in 11 years I chalked it up as routine maintenance.

                    As always on any vehicle, make sure all wiring connections are clean and tight. Especially the ground circuits.

                    in reply to: Fuel in bowl turning cream colored #47474
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                      Bob,

                      That is interesting about the blue fuel. Around here (upper prairies) all we ever see is clear or red. Don’t get caught with traces of red in you on road vehicle!

                      in reply to: Fuel in bowl turning cream colored #47467
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                        Did you change the fuel filter and clean the sediment bowl when you drained the tank? Did you clean the tank or just drain it out?

                        Cream color could indicate water or air in the fuel. Try draining some out into a clear (clean) container and let it sit. If it is air it should clear up after sitting undisturbed a few days. If it is water, it should separate out after a while.

                        Have you checked the radiator to see if the coolant is clean? I don’t know of any way coolant could get into the fuel system.

                        Have you checked the engine oil to see what it looks like and if the level has changed?

                        Have you checked the oil in the injection pump? My injection pump leaks fuel into the crankcase of the pump. Not a lot but I suppose it could go the other way if the circumstances were right. In any case, I just change the pump oil when I change engine oil and leave the overflow uncapped so any excess can drain out.

                        It sounds like you are using un-dyed road fuel. Do you know what grade it is? #1 or some kind of winter blend? Maybe an additive issue?

                        If you can’t find the source, your only choice will be to thoroughly clean everything in the fuel system at the same time. Don’t forget to clean the tank or can you transport and store with either. Then start over with fresh fuel. I would add a biocide to make sure you don’t get diesel bugs.

                        Good luck and let us know what you find.

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